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		<title>By: kirbysguy</title>
		<link>http://mugsysrapsheet.com/2009/11/23/debunking-8-ridiculous-myths-against-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-145</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drone

why are conservatives such as yourself so obsessed with nationalizing everything.  Stop already!  it isnt going to happen, no matter how much you hope it will!!

You have a lot of replies on here,  and I have to say I can see how passionately you feel about your point of view.  I have a lot of respect for the depths of these beliefs, and want to offer some suggestions for how to stand up for these beliefs:

Stand up against the public school system (which I hope you didnt attend.  If you did, you should repay the taxpayers right away, so you can be comfortable that you didnt receive a socialist-indoctrination type of education).  You should make a sign and go protest in front of any public school!  Stand up for what you believe is right!

Make sure you contact the fire and police departments, so that they are aware you do NOT need or want their involvement in anything related to your person or premises.  We all understand the need for these services, so you should set up a billing procedure that they follow in order to pay for these services if ever they are need.  (This is certainly NOT something you should have to think about if your home burns down or you are robbed.  Just wait for the invoice -- so easy)

Start hauling your trash to the local dump yourself.  What better way to demonstrate your American spirit than by people seeing the work you put in to NOT having trash service stop at your house.  

make sure you do not use any public transportation -- buses, subways, etc.  If you walk or drive everywhere, people will know that you exude the true spirit of Capitalism (bonus points for NOT being in a carpool -- make sure your travels are on your dollar and your dollar alone -- dont want any potential appearance of accepting a handout in the form of a ride).  Unfortunately, you have no choice but to use public roadways -- this will have to be ok, but strict adherence to the above notions will certainly help.

use only fedex and UPS.  Dont send anything through the mail -- yes, it isnt a perfect system anyway, and spending 43Â¢ per letter, instead of the higher charge from the private companies, screams I AM A SOCIALIST.  Better to fight this now.  

Protest all branches of the military.  This is one of the biggest socialist organizations around!  Even the National Guard.  I mean, come on, can anyone believe that when disaster strikes, this group will go to that area and help out.  What an insult to Americans!  You should start protesting outside of recruiting centers (this could be a great day, if you start at the schools in the morning, then move to military facilities).

Good luck with your efforts to ensure America continues to thrive!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drone</p>
<p>why are conservatives such as yourself so obsessed with nationalizing everything.  Stop already!  it isnt going to happen, no matter how much you hope it will!!</p>
<p>You have a lot of replies on here,  and I have to say I can see how passionately you feel about your point of view.  I have a lot of respect for the depths of these beliefs, and want to offer some suggestions for how to stand up for these beliefs:</p>
<p>Stand up against the public school system (which I hope you didnt attend.  If you did, you should repay the taxpayers right away, so you can be comfortable that you didnt receive a socialist-indoctrination type of education).  You should make a sign and go protest in front of any public school!  Stand up for what you believe is right!</p>
<p>Make sure you contact the fire and police departments, so that they are aware you do NOT need or want their involvement in anything related to your person or premises.  We all understand the need for these services, so you should set up a billing procedure that they follow in order to pay for these services if ever they are need.  (This is certainly NOT something you should have to think about if your home burns down or you are robbed.  Just wait for the invoice &#8212; so easy)</p>
<p>Start hauling your trash to the local dump yourself.  What better way to demonstrate your American spirit than by people seeing the work you put in to NOT having trash service stop at your house.  </p>
<p>make sure you do not use any public transportation &#8212; buses, subways, etc.  If you walk or drive everywhere, people will know that you exude the true spirit of Capitalism (bonus points for NOT being in a carpool &#8212; make sure your travels are on your dollar and your dollar alone &#8212; dont want any potential appearance of accepting a handout in the form of a ride).  Unfortunately, you have no choice but to use public roadways &#8212; this will have to be ok, but strict adherence to the above notions will certainly help.</p>
<p>use only fedex and UPS.  Dont send anything through the mail &#8212; yes, it isnt a perfect system anyway, and spending 43Â¢ per letter, instead of the higher charge from the private companies, screams I AM A SOCIALIST.  Better to fight this now.  </p>
<p>Protest all branches of the military.  This is one of the biggest socialist organizations around!  Even the National Guard.  I mean, come on, can anyone believe that when disaster strikes, this group will go to that area and help out.  What an insult to Americans!  You should start protesting outside of recruiting centers (this could be a great day, if you start at the schools in the morning, then move to military facilities).</p>
<p>Good luck with your efforts to ensure America continues to thrive!!</p>
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		<title>By: kirbysguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirbysguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drone

did you actually READ the link you posted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drone</p>
<p>did you actually READ the link you posted?</p>
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		<title>By: kirbysguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow

havent ever seen this blog, but I am glad I discovered it.  A lot of your debunking are things I have discussed with many people -- leading me to wonder why there is even an debate at all, considering that most of the opposition to health care reform has little to no factual basis, and is mostly a creation of scary things that could happen in the future.  When did fortune telling become a legitimate talking point?

Anyway, thanks Mugsy.  I will be saving this post and emailing it to people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow</p>
<p>havent ever seen this blog, but I am glad I discovered it.  A lot of your debunking are things I have discussed with many people &#8212; leading me to wonder why there is even an debate at all, considering that most of the opposition to health care reform has little to no factual basis, and is mostly a creation of scary things that could happen in the future.  When did fortune telling become a legitimate talking point?</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks Mugsy.  I will be saving this post and emailing it to people.</p>
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		<title>By: Mugsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mugsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, compared to the Dubya/Palin brain-trust, Democrats are all drooling imbeciles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, compared to the Dubya/Palin brain-trust, Democrats are all drooling imbeciles.</p>
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		<title>By: Mugsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mugsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi dronenumber8,

Since you have clearly already bought the GOP propaganda hook, line &amp; sinker, I&#039;m not sure what I could say to bring you back to the reality-based community.

America is the ONLY G20 nation without a national healthcare program that covers every citizen, so naturally you toss out &quot;the Soviet Union&quot; as your one and only concept of what &quot;socialized&quot; medicine is like.

I know Republicans are a bunch of frightened children afraid of their own shadows (that&#039;s how we ended up in Iraq), but &quot;government&quot; actually has a function. You might of heard of it: &quot;Provide for the common defense. Promote the general welfare. And ensure the blessings of our liberty&quot;? &quot;Defense&quot; is not limited to the military. &quot;The general welfare&quot; does not refer exclusively to &quot;welfare for the poor&quot;, and you&#039;re not free when if you are so sick you can&#039;t do anything... include get better faster so you can go back to work and start paying taxes again.

Regarding: &quot;Why not socialize everything?&quot; We only socialize things that fall into three categories: when &quot;mass competition&quot; just isn&#039;t practical... such as local mail delivery (having dozens of privatized mail carriers all covering the same ground every day would drive costs through the roof) or providing water/sewage (you can&#039;t have dozens of companies all laying pipe everywhere).

Second: when a service is too big for any one company to provide... such as the interstate highway system or the military.

And third: When we DON&#039;T WANT a service to be &quot;for profit&quot;. The police and the fire department fall into this category. Healthcare should fall into this category as well.

ALL of these things are &quot;socialized&quot;, right here in the good ol&#039; USofA.

Realize, insurance companies DO NOT PROVIDE MEDICINE. Doctors &amp; Hospitals do. All they do is handle the money. And &quot;for profit&quot; insurance makes its money ONE WAY and one way only: by *denying* care. Period. For every thousand dollars in profit health insurers make, there is a person they denied care to. To defend the private insurance system is to defend the right of a corporation to deny you care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi dronenumber8,</p>
<p>Since you have clearly already bought the GOP propaganda hook, line &#038; sinker, I&#8217;m not sure what I could say to bring you back to the reality-based community.</p>
<p>America is the ONLY G20 nation without a national healthcare program that covers every citizen, so naturally you toss out &#8220;the Soviet Union&#8221; as your one and only concept of what &#8220;socialized&#8221; medicine is like.</p>
<p>I know Republicans are a bunch of frightened children afraid of their own shadows (that&#8217;s how we ended up in Iraq), but &#8220;government&#8221; actually has a function. You might of heard of it: &#8220;Provide for the common defense. Promote the general welfare. And ensure the blessings of our liberty&#8221;? &#8220;Defense&#8221; is not limited to the military. &#8220;The general welfare&#8221; does not refer exclusively to &#8220;welfare for the poor&#8221;, and you&#8217;re not free when if you are so sick you can&#8217;t do anything&#8230; include get better faster so you can go back to work and start paying taxes again.</p>
<p>Regarding: &#8220;Why not socialize everything?&#8221; We only socialize things that fall into three categories: when &#8220;mass competition&#8221; just isn&#8217;t practical&#8230; such as local mail delivery (having dozens of privatized mail carriers all covering the same ground every day would drive costs through the roof) or providing water/sewage (you can&#8217;t have dozens of companies all laying pipe everywhere).</p>
<p>Second: when a service is too big for any one company to provide&#8230; such as the interstate highway system or the military.</p>
<p>And third: When we DON&#8217;T WANT a service to be &#8220;for profit&#8221;. The police and the fire department fall into this category. Healthcare should fall into this category as well.</p>
<p>ALL of these things are &#8220;socialized&#8221;, right here in the good ol&#8217; USofA.</p>
<p>Realize, insurance companies DO NOT PROVIDE MEDICINE. Doctors &#038; Hospitals do. All they do is handle the money. And &#8220;for profit&#8221; insurance makes its money ONE WAY and one way only: by *denying* care. Period. For every thousand dollars in profit health insurers make, there is a person they denied care to. To defend the private insurance system is to defend the right of a corporation to deny you care.</p>
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		<title>By: dronenumber8</title>
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		<dc:creator>dronenumber8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/11/politics-and-iq-conservative-democrats.html
Oops, looks like the average Republican is smarter than the average Democrat IQ-wise but hey, facts don&#039;t matter when we have an axe to grind Mugsy.  If the &quot;global warming&quot; cult, I mean scientists, can pitch their data so can we.  Let&#039;s just make it up as we go, ok?  Let&#039;s just keep going because expanding government &quot;feels good&quot; even if it might bankrupt the country and not help anyone.</description>
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Oops, looks like the average Republican is smarter than the average Democrat IQ-wise but hey, facts don&#8217;t matter when we have an axe to grind Mugsy.  If the &#8220;global warming&#8221; cult, I mean scientists, can pitch their data so can we.  Let&#8217;s just make it up as we go, ok?  Let&#8217;s just keep going because expanding government &#8220;feels good&#8221; even if it might bankrupt the country and not help anyone.</p>
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